Transformation Is a Consequence of Understanding
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Osho,
Is there any difference between the approaches of Shiva and Saraha towards Tantra?
"Not really, not essentially. But as far as the form is concerned, yes. Religions differ only in the..."
Is there any difference between the approaches of Shiva and Saraha towards Tantra?
"Not really, not essentially. But as far as the form is concerned, yes. Religions differ only in the..."
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Osho,
Is there any difference between the approaches of Shiva and Saraha towards Tantra?
"Not really, not essentially. But as far as the form is concerned, yes. Religions differ only in the..."
Osho continues:
Is there any difference between the approaches of Shiva and Saraha towards Tantra?
"Not really, not essentially. But as far as the form is concerned, yes. Religions differ only in the..."
"Their arrows are released from different bows, but they reach the same target. The bow does not matter finally. What type of bow you have chosen does not matter if the target is attained. These are the two bows because man basically is divided into two: thinking and feeling. Either you can approach reality through thinking or you can approach reality through feeling.
"The Buddhist approach – the approach of Buddha and Saraha – is through intelligence. It is basically through the mind that Saraha moves. Of course the mind has to be left behind, but it is the mind that has to be left behind. By and by the mind has to disappear into meditation, but it is the mind that has to disappear; it is the thinking that has to be transformed, and a state of no-thought has to be created. But remember: it is a state of no-thought, and that can be created only by slowly dropping thoughts, by and by. So the whole work consists in the thinking part.
"Shiva's approach is that of the feeling, of the heart. The feeling has to be transformed. Love has to be transformed so that it becomes prayer. On Shiva's way, the devotee and the deity remain, the bhakta and bhagwan remain. At the ultimate peak they both disappear into each other.
"Listen to it carefully: when Shiva's Tantra reaches to its ultimate orgasm, I is dissolved into thou, and thou is dissolved into I; they are both together, they become one unity.
"When Saraha's Tantra reaches to its ultimate peak, the recognition is: neither you are right, neither you are true, neither you exist, nor I; both disappear. There are two zeros meeting, not I and thou – neither I nor thou. Two zeros, two empty spaces dissolve into each other…because the whole effort on Saraha's path is how to dissolve thought, and I and thou are parts of thought. When thought is utterly dissolved, how can you call yourself l? And whom will you call your God? God is part of thought; it is a thought creation, a thought construct, a mind construct. So all mind constructs dissolve and shunya, emptiness, arises."
"The Buddhist approach – the approach of Buddha and Saraha – is through intelligence. It is basically through the mind that Saraha moves. Of course the mind has to be left behind, but it is the mind that has to be left behind. By and by the mind has to disappear into meditation, but it is the mind that has to disappear; it is the thinking that has to be transformed, and a state of no-thought has to be created. But remember: it is a state of no-thought, and that can be created only by slowly dropping thoughts, by and by. So the whole work consists in the thinking part.
"Shiva's approach is that of the feeling, of the heart. The feeling has to be transformed. Love has to be transformed so that it becomes prayer. On Shiva's way, the devotee and the deity remain, the bhakta and bhagwan remain. At the ultimate peak they both disappear into each other.
"Listen to it carefully: when Shiva's Tantra reaches to its ultimate orgasm, I is dissolved into thou, and thou is dissolved into I; they are both together, they become one unity.
"When Saraha's Tantra reaches to its ultimate peak, the recognition is: neither you are right, neither you are true, neither you exist, nor I; both disappear. There are two zeros meeting, not I and thou – neither I nor thou. Two zeros, two empty spaces dissolve into each other…because the whole effort on Saraha's path is how to dissolve thought, and I and thou are parts of thought. When thought is utterly dissolved, how can you call yourself l? And whom will you call your God? God is part of thought; it is a thought creation, a thought construct, a mind construct. So all mind constructs dissolve and shunya, emptiness, arises."
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| Publisher | Osho International |
|---|---|
| Duration of Talk | 95 mins |
| File Size | 26.05 MB |
| Type | individueel gesprek |
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