The Swiss people are famous because of their clean country, and they call themselves a commune too. Do you think there is a similarity between your commune and Switzerland, because you are keeping your commune very clean and so…

"I know Swiss people are clean, but there is nothing in it to brag about.

"One should be clean; it is not something special, it should be natural. When somebody is unclean, then he is a special case.

"Switzerland is clean, a beautiful country…"

Is it possible that you will go to Switzerland at any time?

"There is every possibility, I keep everything open."

What would you do if you were in Switzerland?

"That would depend what people there do with me. They will be as hostile to me as any other people, because the mind of man is just the same all over the world: conditioned by the past. Anything new creates fear, paranoia. And I am totally new, discontinuous with the past.

"I want humanity to burn the whole history of man and just to start from scratch, because what we have done in the past is not worth remembering. The sooner we forget it the better.

"So it is not a question of Switzerland or Germany or England or India. The mind is conditioned by the past. There may be differences in detail, but one thing is basic: they are all living with ideas which are out of date, and they are all living with fictions as if they are realities. So when I say the truth it hurts, it shocks."

What would you deprogram in Switzerland?

"I would do exactly the same as I am doing here: shocking people, creating as many enemies as possible – because that is my way of working. Once you are my enemy, then friendship is not far away. Rather than starting with friendship and ending up with enmity – which is what happens – I have reversed the process. I start with enmity and end up with friendship. Then there is no possibility of enmity again; it is already finished, it is already over.

"Gautam Buddha used to say that anything that is sweet in the beginning turns out to be bitter in the end, and anything that is bitter in the beginning turns out to be sweet in the end – and I feel he is right as far as human relationships are concerned.